Curse

Markaedw · Mar 25, 2006, 06:40 AM // 06:40

They have no armor, cant take a hit so they can't lead a mission of henchies. The skills are all about status disorders and only other assassins like to group with them.

Just like the mesmer!

Loralai · Mar 25, 2006, 06:48 AM // 06:48

Actually...no..mesmers own assasins. ;P

Toxic RD · Mar 25, 2006, 06:49 AM // 06:49

You seriously think A's will be under-used. . . like the mesmer. . . .?

Toxic RD · Mar 25, 2006, 06:50 AM // 06:50

AND under-appreciated/estimated?

Mtank325 · Mar 25, 2006, 06:59 AM // 06:59

Not to be fickle or shallow, but I think a good reason people don't intially start as Mesmer is because of the Mesmer's appearance.

Toxic RD · Mar 25, 2006, 07:00 AM // 07:00

They have some of the best looking armors and facial features though, IMO 80% of all the factions stuff just looks idiotic, i dont want to be asian, im not asian, and im never going to be asian, and for god sakes why are factions mesmers so fat

rollntider · Mar 25, 2006, 07:08 AM // 07:08

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Originally Posted by Toxic RD

They have some of the best looking armors and facial features though, IMO 80% of all the factions stuff just looks idiotic, i dont want to be asian, im not asian, and im never going to be asian, and for god sakes why are factions mesmers so fat

Since this is a beta event hopefully there is more choices for facial features

Hella Good · Mar 25, 2006, 07:14 AM // 07:14

Er... mesmers own PvP. Mesmers are underused in PvE but much like rangers that is balanced off with overuse in PvP. I clearly doubt anyone will argue the case that a mesmer can't single handedly destroy just about anything ANYHOW. Assassins perhaps are going to follow a similar path. I have played with some very descent assassins and think the class has potential. Am I going to sweat it? Hell, no! I play a mesmer- I kill assassins in 2-3 secs max.

Alonsiddog · Mar 25, 2006, 07:16 AM // 07:16

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Originally Posted by Markaedw

They have no armor, cant take a hit so they can't lead a mission of henchies.

I've led several successful runs with henchmen on my assassin, it's not even hard. The henches I took with me were:

Fighter
Guardian
Healer
Protector
Interruptor
Spirit
Mage

Works really smoothly if you avoid the larger groups of mobs. (took out about 8 lvl 28 mobs at once with this lot, large groups of 20-24 mobs seem tougher)

VGJustice · Mar 25, 2006, 07:32 AM // 07:32

Just got owned by a KD Sin in RA. Didn't see it coming, 2 guys down, and suddenly I couldn't get off my duff.

Oh yeah, the Assassins are terible and no one is ever going to use them

lyra_song · Mar 25, 2006, 08:36 AM // 08:36

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Originally Posted by Markaedw

They have no armor, cant take a hit so they can't lead a mission of henchies. The skills are all about status disorders and only other assassins like to group with them.

Just like the mesmer!

#1) They dont have high armor because they arent WARRIORS.

#2) So what if you cant take a hit; evade, kite, block, blind, or buff yourself.

#3) Henchies are only as smart as the human controlling them. Focus their attacks and they are efficient killing machines. I;ve done THK with henchies with my mesmer doing very little work on my own.

#4) Their skills are not just status conditions. They can be very versatile. Learn your skills, use some imagination, make a new build.

#5) Sins group with Sins cause theres so many of them running around.

Final Point: Mesmers and Sins are not close to, nor are they equal to, each other in purpose, strengths, weaknesses, or ranking.

Pharoke · Mar 25, 2006, 09:09 AM // 09:09

I am playing assassin and have used henchies for all my missions and have not had a single problem. I even beat the Attack the Kurzick with henchies. It doesn't matter what class you are you just need to know how to play that class.

Wind of Horus · Mar 25, 2006, 09:21 AM // 09:21

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Originally Posted by Markaedw

They have no armor, cant take a hit so they can't lead a mission of henchies. The skills are all about status disorders and only other assassins like to group with them.

Just like the mesmer!

Youre joking right?

First off, the assassins are not going to be holding the keg (or in factions) The turtle shell? Anyways, if you draw all the agro on you, you will die and this is the same for any character just some quicker than others. Lets go over what an assassin is by definition a murderer who kills by a treacherous surprise attack, with this said you kind of get the general idea of how one should be used, not to charge in head first into a fight and draw all the agro, pick a target in which you have an advantage over (since you are using melee it will most likely be a caster) go in, kill the target and leave. I have done this plenty of times (even with henchmen) I wont give all skills but Recall on a monk, death charge on a caster, your usual chain of attacks and bam, a dead enemy (with my build atleast) kill recall and you are back at the monk with no damage done to yourself.

Joh · Mar 25, 2006, 01:07 PM // 13:07

Try A/Me with Fragility + Black Mantis Thrust + Jungle Strike + Twisting Fangs. That's what I do and boy does it work well.

mariano · Mar 25, 2006, 01:20 PM // 13:20

I agree.

I think, also, that assassin/mesmer and mesmer/assassin may be nice mixings.

I like mesmer, I use it for PvE and PvP, think that for PvE my friends like better if I go with my monk. And I plan to play an assassin as my third more played character. I have done all the game with all 6 professions, to know them and to unlock skills, and I plan to play the ritualist in this manner.

Sidra · Mar 25, 2006, 01:33 PM // 13:33

I personally like the assassins and think they are very powerfull if you use them right. we tanked 3 groups of those dread things, with a necro boss and their monk, it took 10 minutes, but we did. and i never died once. its all about how you do it. go in, lay down your combo, do some extra hits, run out and recharge. if you haven't figured out how to use your character yet, then dont downsize it. because its not supposed to be another tank class at all.

Yanman.be · Mar 25, 2006, 01:37 PM // 13:37

a/me is the new r/me..you'll see

Numa Pompilius · Mar 25, 2006, 01:50 PM // 13:50

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Originally Posted by Markaedw

They have no armor, cant take a hit so they can't lead a mission of henchies. The skills are all about status disorders

If you're talking RA or PvE, I'll have to award you the coveted "most inaccurate post of the week" award.

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only other assassins like to group with them.

Well, there is truth in this, at least, and just like with mesmers mainly due to the braindeadness of followers of FOtMs and cookie-cutter builds.

Markaedw · Mar 25, 2006, 05:48 PM // 17:48

You all had some very good points, and in retrospect I didn't really experiment with the build as much as I did with my other characters. I'll have to give the sin another try in April.

NinjaKai · Mar 25, 2006, 07:21 PM // 19:21

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Originally Posted by Markaedw

They have no armor, cant take a hit so they can't lead a mission of henchies. The skills are all about status disorders and only other assassins like to group with them.

Just like the mesmer!

Excuse me. I have a mesmer as my main character. And I have completed different missions with success only using hench. There are a great deal of ways that mesmers can avoid being damaged or atleast avoid being heavily damaged. And mesmers have a good range of DoT spells. Don't comment on a class when you OBVIOUSLY haven't tried it.